....but who do You say I am?

It seems as if this just came up in conversation. Jesus and the disciples were on the road again after going to another village and its crowd and then past the city limits and other passersby. On the road again. And it may well be that they had been talking about the places they had most recently been, recalling the past weeks and months of traveling and teachings and miracles and prophesies. At the center of it all - all the excitement and questions and answers and challenges and controversy and followers and detractors - at the center was Jesus.

After polling the group on who the followers thought the Messiah was, Jesus makes it simple and personal. "But who do You say I am?"

In these latter days, some say a prophet, a teacher, an idealist, a radical. Still others say Lord, brother, the Son of God.

This Sunday, think about your relation - as a Christian - to Jesus.

Who is He to you? Who do You say He is?

From the Deacon J mailbox

A few brave souls have ventured some questions on this and that re: different aspects of More or Less Church, so let me share them with you all.

BH from St. Petersburg, FL writes (excerpted):
Recently you invited us to send in our questions. Before doing so, I have to say I LOVE the Geranium Farm and I enjoy the writings of all of the contributors!

My husband and I have enjoyed the Sun. eve. CAYA (Come As You Are) service and the Sat. 5 p.m. Rite I service. Some time ago in a different city I attended a morning service and I know it is more formal.

Now to my question. In about the mid point of the service everyone makes the sign of the cross, they may say Thanks Be To God at that point too, my memory fails me on that. We have a program that we follow along with (very helpful for newbies) but I don't see that mentioned. Can you tell me at what point in the service this occurs?

I cannot find a mid-point during a Rite I service where those words would be said by the congregation. It is a common pious practise, however.... at the end of the Nicene Creed to make the sign of the cross at some point during the recitation of the final phrase "..resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come". Two other specific moments when this sign is used are: 1) during the words of absolution (by the priest or bishop) and 2) after the words of institution in the Eucharist and before the Our Father, the sign of the cross is typically made during the section of the Eucharistic prayer when we 'offer ourselves' in dedication to Christ. The last sign of the cross is typically done during the dismissal blessing by the priest or bishop.

I still do not kneel before entering the pew, although within myself I am respectful. Is this okay?

Yes, this is fine. It is always important to bear in mind that - contrary to outward appearances - the corporate worship we participate in is for the glory of God. Period. While we each have our own style, the main objective is to dedicate the time you spend, the effort you spend, the attention you spend.... all for the glory of God. Some people genuflect (bend down on one knee), others pause at the entrance of the pew and respectfully bow the head (or bow at the waist), some make the sign of the cross. All of these gestures are simply signs of respect - the kind of respect that is afforded only royalty on formal occasions these days. Then again, aren't we coming before the King of Kings and Lord of Lords?

Do you think that pants for women are okay on Sun. a.m. I don't mean cutoffs and jeans with holes! The church I had been attending was quite relaxed in the dress code, shorts and pants were fine, but I do not want to feel out of place if dresses or skirts are the norm. Living in Florida it seems we are a bit more relaxed everywhere.

Here is another instance of local customary: your style and those you worship with. "When in Rome....." Yes, slacks are fine. This is a matter of personal piety and intention. If you are intentionally attending a parish that has a formal style of liturgy, odds are the dress code will be suits for men and dresses, skirts or nice suits for women: you'll know it right away. If, on the other hand, it is Parish "Clean Up" or "Picnic" Sunday where everyone is invited to attend the service, rake leaves or participate in a water balloon toss and then have hot dogs, it seems over the top to wear the high pumps and chiffon. In a standard 'formal' Sunday settings, the rule of thumb is: be neat, clean. To honor God some folks do - and always will - put on their 'Sunday best'. Appropriate dress is appropriate for the place you go and your function once you get there.

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From another reader (and the e-mail has evaporated into cyberspace, sorry!!!! so I will have to paraphrase) there were 2 things:

1) Since both priests and deacons have the same course of study, what is the difference between the two? Does a deacon officiate at a Eucharist?

According to specific guidelines for ordination, priests and deacons must fulfill study and show competancy in all canonical areas before being ordained. However, exactly how one fulfills those requirements can differ from diocese to diocese. Many a diocese requires that both priests and deacons attend a seminary and pass GOE's; others have their own specific School for Deacons or a diocesan training program.

In the most simple terms, a priest's function is to administer the sacraments and teach. A deacon's function is to gather and distribute. Now this gets a bit confusing when a priest comes along with the charism to lift up leadership in the laity or to run a soup kitchen -- or when a deacon is a gifted preacher and healer. Somehow the Church universal seems to function anyway! In technical terms, a deacon does not preside at services; they are not ordained with the ability to consecrate elements or pronounce absolution in the name of the church. They may distribute communion which has already been consecrated by a bishop or priest, but only in unusual circumstances may that happen at the principal service during the week (i.e. on Sunday).

2) How DO you address a bishop? You may address them verbally simply as "Bishop" or "Your Excellency", for an archbishop, "Your Grace" is sometimes used. In written terms, address for a Bishop is: The Right Reverend (Rt.Rev.) X X. If a doctorate is involved: The Rt. Rev. Dr. X X.

I hope this little explanation space has helped. Thanks for the questions - - keep them coming!

Blessed Mary, pray for us..... August 15

In most sacristies (little room or alcove where people vest for services and where things like wedding kneeler cushions, the advent wreath and the vessels and linens for the communion service are stored) there is an odd looking calendar with numbered days in different colors and miniscule writing beneath. An ordo calendar. The color of each date lets us know what color (if vestments and appointments are used for clergy, the chalice and the pulpit) to use on what day. We are in the green days of Pentecost. The color changes with the feast day of a saint - usually the day that particular saint met their earthly end. The fifteenth of August is reserved for the feast day of St. Mary the Virgin.

I come from a long line of women who had a 'special' relationship with Mary. Somehow my paternal great grandmother, my maternal grandmother and my Mom all went to Mary when they wanted to unburden the weight from their shoulders or their hearts or ask for patience... even for some Divine Intervention (my mother credited the Blessed Mother with assisting me to pass algebra - barely - allowing me to move without a hitch from 9th grade).

I do admire the fierce faith of Mary. She uttered that history making YES. When invited to be instrumental in the Incarnation, she said YES. For that I am in awe and full of gratitute. Because of her witness in saying YES - despite any feelings of fear or pain or sorrow or confusion - it is easier for me to face turning points in my life and make affirmative decisions grounded in faith.

Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is indeed with you..... Amen.